If they think it's right to use a d4 it's really fine, it barely makes a change (a sad ~1.5 dpr increase in a combat, in the rare occasion you are using both the action and bonus action to attack), and if so they should really make an errata and change the text of the feat and especially explain how the interaction work in practice in game.įor now the manual is clear on using the d8 and for me it makes way more sense practically but if you want to use this interaction, talk to your DM before the session and in the end it's not a big deal, flavour the spell as you like and have fun with it regardless of the dice used. My best bet is that Crawford misread Polearm Master (the d4 is called specifically "weapon damage die" as in the description of shillelagh, he believed it was written just as "damage die" In that case the dice used for the attack would be a d4 and no wander, it's really easy to miss, I had to check it more than once to be sure myself).Īll the more the interaction becomes really confusing in practice: how exacly should shillelagh work, just some attack do damage from the magical aura of the spell? The enchantment is weaker based on the way you attack? Or some part of the staff are just not affected? The problem with polearm master including quarterstaff is, at its root, a. But the Shillelagh can now be used twice instead of once. The Polearm Master feat allows you to perform an opportunity attack against anyone that enters. The right question is what do you gain vs someone that uses a similar weapon that does not have polearm master A druid with Shillelagh will win an attack with his bonus action for the cost of one feat, yes. The fact that Crawford did not say anything else of their interaction also supports the use of casting ability instead of STR for the attack and damage rolls.īased to the description of both the feat and the spell the dice used for the attack is a d8, the language used is extremely specific and after reading it carefully you can notice how the two description match perfecly. Shillelagh imbues a quarterstaff with magic for a minute. However, while the Attack action uses a d8 for damage per the Shillelagh spell. When If I cast Shillelagh on my quarterstaff and have Polearm Master feat, does the bonus attack deal d4 or d8?Ĭrawford The bonus attack would use a d4. 5e Polearm Master Warlock The devil makes two attacks: one with its. This interaction was clarified by 5e designer and " official rules expert" Jeremy Crawford on 23 August 2014 in the following tweet exchange. However, while the Attack action uses a d8 for damage per the Shillelagh spell, the bonus attack uses a d4 damage die per the Polearm Master feat. The bonus attack is a melee attack, so you would be allowed to use your casting ability for the attack and damage rolls of the bonus attack (and the Attack action). The weapon’s damage die for this attack is a d4, and it deals bludgeoning damage. This attack uses the same ability modifier as the primary attack. When you take the Attack action and attack with only a quarterstaff, you can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. The Polearm Master feat, in relevant part: It is not limited to only the Attack action. If I cast Shillelagh on my quarterstaff and have Polearm Master feat, does the bonus attack deal. 275)Īs written, the spell applies to all melee attacks with the affected weapon. The attack and damage rolls of melee attacks using that weapon, and the weapon's damage die becomes a d8. Please do not downvote posts - off-topic posts should be reported to the moderators.The Shillelagh spell description, in relevant part:įor the duration, you can use your spellcasting ability instead of Strength for.Please upvote posts and comments that you believe would be beneficial to the community.If your post is specific to an edition of D&D (or other TTRPG), please mention it.Please add post flair to your posts it helps search accuracy.Please be friendly and supportive of one another we were all brand new once!.Please report any anti-friendly conduct to the moderators, please do not engage in mudslinging.Advertising, blogs, videos and other forms of promotion are not allowed.Meta posts (art, jokes, memes, greentext, props, and session recaps) are not welcome. Posts should seek, discuss, or impart advice for building or playing characters in D&D or other tabletop roleplaying games (TTRPGs).But I agree with the other comments so fsr that the feat is more specific than the spell. ago That is an interesting question with both rules being specific over general. No matter the base damage of the weapon you are using.
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